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[treefingers]

so you downloaded UO looking for that MMO sandy-box crack fix. problem is you probably arent sure whats going on.. someone in vent might have told you to macro your strength, or go to some town to macro a "build".

nothing is familiar, you have no idea whats going on. everything seems tiny and you keep forgetting how to look in your backpack. but you fight hard as you might to do that strength macro or what have you. and then suddenly it happens. your strength is at 100!.

well its good news, but your still utterly confused by everything around you. so you ask into vent "what do i do now?". and a polite someone directs you to another good macro they may have followed for a build they read about. so you scramble around in your nubile confusion to organize this new macro. then you go to bed. not quite satisfied, mabe unsure if you even like UO.

many days later you have your GM warrior with your 100/25/100 stats and everything was a success! now you have a bad ass strong character!. or do you?.. you look around yourself still confused by the very tiles you walk on..

someone mentions you need a mage to pvp, or maybe poison to PK.. or maybe you want to try the legendary UO crafting system out and someone directs you to your next macro.

days later with a bank full of resource you begin to feel burned out on UO. looking back you cannot muster a single fond memory. did you even play the game? the answer is no.

what your suffering from is macro depression. its what killed UO. everyone does it anyways.

Ultima Online The Second Age: easily the greatest in MMO history to date

but the content wasnt some "end game" epic instance or something. it was the content you created while developing your persistant character. if you develope these characters unattended you will find there is no game left to play.

thank you and good luck traveler!

ITT/TLDR: just ask stuff in this thread and ill answer a million years later

[niccoli]

How can I create a macro of gameplay enjoyment?



Good post and good points. Endgamitis affects thousands of gameplayers every year, and even more will suffer from this terrible disease. How long must we go on with the suffering?

PS. What we need to do is go on an adventure!

[treefingers]

adventure tonight starting soon after this post

est 30 mins

[niccoli]

I don't know if my macro will be done in time...

;)

[Rains Torme]

Yeah, not gonna lie, I was interested, was checking some posts, saw everyone talking about macros and lost all interest immediately.

[Motavia]

Yeah, not gonna lie, I was interested, was checking some posts, saw everyone talking about macros and lost all interest immediately.

Macros aren't at all necessary to have fun with the game, they're just easy to do while afk and having a skilled up toon allows you more options in the world.

[treefingers]

it does allow more options but most of those options become lackluster without the journey of developing the toon. powergaming/macroing serves one type of gamer, the pvper. if everyones goal is to dominate pvp we should be having completely different discussions. and prepare to hear me become strongaxe.

in the end, im not saying force yourself to grind something you dont want to do, but at the same time dont be afraid to just wander around and learn stuff. thats what makes this game different from others. it encourages the adventurer.

[Motavia]

in the end, im not saying force yourself to grind something you dont want to do, but at the same time dont be afraid to just wander around and learn stuff. thats what makes this game different from others. it encourages the adventurer.

Also, the RP griefing potential in this game is fairly high. Fun for the whole family.

And by that I mean griefing as a RPer, not griefing the RPers.

[niccoli]

it does allow more options but most of those options become lackluster without the journey of developing the toon. powergaming/macroing serves one type of gamer, the pvper. if everyones goal is to dominate pvp we should be having completely different discussions. and prepare to hear me become strongaxe.

in the end, im not saying force yourself to grind something you dont want to do, but at the same time dont be afraid to just wander around and learn stuff. thats what makes this game different from others. it encourages the adventurer.


I've been doing a mix. There are certain things I don't want to experience over time, so I've got macro's going when I'm not around. But otherwise I've just been messing around when I get online, relearning a game I haven't played in probably 10 years or more.

[Spinewire]

I only macro while I sleep. I have mainly being playing dodge the PK in Destard and making fat loot in between. I found out that Wrestling would be more useful than hiding as it never goes off and a dexer raped my face...

I also went to Hythloth and got gang banged by demons. Then realised it was an island and as I had already used my /stuck command I had to wait to be rescued by a friend.

Does anyone know where you can make more than 10k every 30 mins? As that's whay I seem to be making in Destard with my provoker.

[treefingers]

underneath terathan keep is a good place for provoking. but its a long run out if you die.

your right about the dexxers though. its almost impossible to escape one without wrestling, most PK dexers can outrun me with 130ping so recall is the only option.

[Spinewire]

I think mine is around that ping wise and that fucker was all up in my shit 24/7... I could not get away.

I didn't have teleport yet as my magery is so shite, when I see a red I usually precast it and if he attacks i run round a bit then run for the door and hide just in front of it, even if the hide does not work they usually run straight out, then I tp back into the cave and run up the ramp and rehide. Usually works like a charm, if I have teleport .

I need to make a table drop macro as outside destard there is a house that has 1 a tile gap past it. Running through there and dropping a table ruins their day and you are long gone by the time they have moved it. Sometimes you have time to fit in a "lol zwnt" before you run off.

I have missed this game, why is everything else so shit. :(

[Matriel]

I want TF to come visit me. We can get really high and catch Pokemons. I won't even shoot them!

[Lily]

I wanted to play, but I think I did right in not doing so.

[Monte]

I wanted to play, but I think I did right in not doing so.

incorrect.

It is way better then wow.

There is tons to do, even after done buidling your guys. Crarfting is the best, PvP, farming gold and shit.

Just ask about our adventure lastnight... or Miss-adventure!!!

[Spinewire]

I want to play with your tits...

[Red Morgan]

I wanted to play, but I think I did right in not doing so.

Really? I'm having a fucking blast in this game.

Last night I watched everyone else die horribly of poison while I hid and looted corpses, told Moose he's stupid a lot, got paid big time from begging at the bank, res killed Zieen like a thousand times, and decorated my new home with a bed on top of a pentagram surrounded by flaming candles as it will soon be turned into a hellhole of visceral carnal horror. All the night needed to be complete was a bloody steak and a blowjob.

[Lily]

Don't get me wrong, it's not the game, it's me.

I've never played it, wouldn't know what to do, never be on at the right time to learn and would eventually sulk quit. Treefinger's OP described it pretty well.

[treefingers]

@spinewire- you can also use those same type of "relative location" macros to have pretargetted teleports to getaway spots. trinsic was my fav place to do this in O/C wars. :smirk:

@lily- yes the game can be confusing. but its 100% free to play, and the download/install takes probably less than an hour total. i cant say for sure about being the right timezone to play with people though. usually the UO crowd comes in around 7pm-12pm est. if you choose to play some day i can answer any questions. alternatively you can bug spinewire into teaching you how to play since you guys have the same time zone afaik.

[Rains Torme]

I might give it a shot but I never really played it before so I'd need help.

[niccoli]

I might give it a shot but I never really played it before so I'd need help.

I played it a long time ago and I need help too. The wiki is probably the best source for info as well as asking for help in vent. The Wiki is slightly better than vent because you can actually understand it 100% of the time vs. 30% of the time when people are talking over each other.

I'd definitely recommend giving it a try, don't over think the graphics and enjoy the gameplay.

http://wiki.uosecondage.com/

[Red Morgan]

I played it a long time ago and I need help too. The wiki is probably the best source for info as well as asking for help in vent. The Wiki is slightly better than vent because you can actually understand it 100% of the time vs. 30% of the time when people are talking over each other.

I'd definitely recommend giving it a try, don't over think the graphics and enjoy the gameplay.

http://wiki.uosecondage.com/

Yeah, that's one thing I wish people would be a bit more considerate of. We should have a special noob channel and have a helper in there for the new guys.

[Pink Mippoose]

I agree with treefingers.

And from seeing the way half of you post in here, you may as well be skilling up in EVE.

What are all of your maxed out characters for? something nice to stare at?

In all honesty I kind of want to go treasure hunting with goobles though.

[Motavia]

What are all of your maxed out characters for? something nice to stare at?

When you go on an adventure, it's nice to not have to worry about getting rolled by anyone you encounter.

[Vattic]

I agree with treefingers.

And from seeing the way half of you post in here, you may as well be skilling up in EVE.

What are all of your maxed out characters for? something nice to stare at?

In all honesty I kind of want to go treasure hunting with goobles though.
there are lots of ways to enjoy the game, and skilling up is much, much faster than eve. the point of having sweet characters is not to jerk off to them, but to survive in a game where the shard population is mostly maxed because you can do it so quickly. alternatively, you don't have to macro. a lot of us doing it have already done it the old fashioned way. it doesn't hold any more mystery for us. but for a new player, growing into knowledge of the game as your character naturally skills up is one of the joys of the game. it's far from being the only thing to love though.

[Red Morgan]

I think assuming that character progression is the point of all MMORPGs is a bit of a misnomer. Don't get me wrong, it was really cool to stumble around and be a noob in UO the first time around and I'm really glad that wasn't ruined for me by macros. That said, I'll be happy to have a 7x GM character without repeating that kind of labor.

Grindfests have conditioned people into accepting the grind as the primary content of the game. UO is very different in that respect.

[Kietharr]

yeah, you need to skill up or you get fucking rocked in pvp. Not that that's an issue if you know how to run, but we can't be on the run forever.

[treefingers]

7xgm isnt going to save you from someone who knows what to do. UO isnt the kind of game where you insta zwnt ppl because your higher level or something. if you cant manage to run 20 steps without hanging on a bush you shouldnt even be worrying about gm anything yet.

thats who this thread is aimed at. people who have never played before.. if you have some kind of UO experience and you are confident enough in yourself or "bored with the grind" by all means, run the macro race, or jump in the pvp scene. you might do alright considering this isnt a pvp server anyways, most of the badasses arent active here.

i made this post because i had the impression we were playing UO to roleplay/have a good time. this is achieved by going out and playing your character by hand, the content comes along with this. you can make this game last years or you can make it last 5 days. its all in how you play.

once your skills are maxed all thats left is to make money. money for what? a house? the ease of farming a house with 7x character makes the end result insignificant anyways. i could shit houses all day and im not pissing myself with excitement over it. when i go out on a brand new character with just enough gear i scrapped together and have an epic battle in a random encounter with some evil creature thats when im having fun.

the approach of ( join server, macro stats, macro farmer, buy house, make tank mage, recall around randomly looking for fights that dont exist because everyone is either macroing or recalling around looking for fights ) <- THIS is the pvp dude approach. he has a no bull attitude and seeks only to pwn and loot. after all UO is a super leet open pvp game right? he will farm only the most rewarding mob spawns with the most efficient type of character. he might do ok, he might do bad. but he doesnt have time for adventures, he doesnt have time for roleplay, he cant be bothered typing a sentence because explode ebolt is so much easier. he even modifies his client to delete all trees because hes strictly no bull.

not that im gonna stop being your friend anymore or something if you want to be pvp dude. but i'll warn you. uo second age is people who've played UO for years. most of you are probably in the 8% group of never played UO before. pvp dudes in the pvp scene will hold you to their standards. and winning a fight in UO isnt quite as brain-dead simple as the mashclick RL endurance test that was niggerniggerniggerniggerniggerniggerniggernigger.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mKzy2y_VXJc

[Kietharr]

me and treefingers just went on a super fantastic ostard hunting adventure. he covered me while i tamed, we got 6 desert ostards, 1 forest ostard, and a llama.

also i can tame scorpions now but i kept failing so we abandoned that barbarian to his rough life in the desert. i wanted to take him and show him the world but no, he just spits poison in my face like a jackass. well fuck him.

you cant macro taming (effectively) anyways so w/e.

[Chamoke]

Don't read this.

[Brilliant]

This thread has inspired me... I think I am going to throw all of my possessions into my bank, and recall to Dagger Isle for an animal taming Walkabout.

[Motavia]

This thread has inspired me... I think I am going to throw all of my possessions into my bank, and recall to Dagger Isle for an animal taming Walkabout.

What's a Dagger Isle?

[Brilliant]

What's a Dagger Isle?

Its a snow covered island in the middle of nowhere, filled with polar bears and walruses and monsters. Its the best place to get your taming skill for a time. If you die and lose your reagents and your rune (a.k.a. your ticket home), you are stuck trying to survive in the desolate ass-end of the world with nothing but a dagger and your wits. At least that's how I always imagined it.

:guns:
(http://uo.stratics.com/database/view.php?db_content=atlas&id=1372)

[Monte]

I have to agree with both Treefingers and Red.

When UO first came out, I got all my skills up by just playing the game. Never macro’d once. Shit, for the first few years I didn’t even use any programs to unequip, equip shit before drinking potions.

I learned to be really quick with the mouse. I played on Chess for 5 years, was respected by the Red’s more than blues. For giving them good fights, for actually staing and fighting, and fun fights.

But like Red said, I am happy I don’t have to go through that whole grind again. I am happy getting past the first 4-6 months of grinding to get a good character to play with.

Treefingers is also 100% about the PvP and learning to play. There are so many variables in this game that it takes time to learn. So people shouldn’t expect to be good at PvP just because they have a 7gm character. As long as people understand that, they should be ok. Just think of a newbie trying to play HoN. Maybe even more complex than that.

This game is what you make of it. There is so much to do in it and as long as you always have people to play with/against, this game is great!!!

[slugys]

ive honestly been having a really good time playing so far and ive been playing my provoker!
i am however going to be macroing up my mages stats and some med eval etc... while im waiting the week to join the thieves guild.

also ill need an invite to the guild at some point. just saving for regs atm but i may get a house soon if there are any spots left in the begar town?

[Red Morgan]

ive honestly been having a really good time playing so far and ive been playing my provoker!
i am however going to be macroing up my mages stats and some med eval etc... while im waiting the week to join the thieves guild.

also ill need an invite to the guild at some point. just saving for regs atm but i may get a house soon if there are any spots left in the begar town?

We've got 3 small spots open still, very close to the others. There is also an L-shaped to the West that is currently Greatly Worn... so keep your fingers crossed on that one.

If you aren't on late enough for me to get home from work, I'll have next week off and I'll be seeing you guys during the day. I can add you up then!

[slugys]

We've got 3 small spots open still, very close to the others. There is also an L-shaped to the West that is currently Greatly Worn... so keep your fingers crossed on that one.

If you aren't on late enough for me to get home from work, I'll have next week off and I'll be seeing you guys during the day. I can add you up then!


cool beans, im lates all next week also so i can stay up late and come adventuring with you all =]

hope your all having as much fun as me, even on my own im having a ball tbh, i fear poison lol.

[treefingers]

we have been getting lucky lately spotting greatly worn houses. there may be some big loots in our distant future.

[Red Morgan]

If I get rich from an IDOC, I'll pay you all to help me stuff monsters in Stalwart's house again.

[Spinewire]

can you get them to follow you through gates?

[Kietharr]

someone pked me on dagger island this morning, he casted paralyze and i said lol nice to meet you too, he told me give all of my stuff so i dropped all of my loots, 1 niggerniggerniggerniggernigger pearl 2 bloodmoss 1 mandrake.

he thought i was a liar so he killed me and said sorry lol ill rez dont give murder

i gave him a murder anyways and he killed my mount for it and started shit talking but i kept asking him if 4 regs in loot is worth a murder count because im new and dont know yet. He pk'd me again and got no loot at all for a second murder before i had to go to school.

[Pink Mippoose]

there are lots of ways to enjoy the game, and skilling up is much, much faster than eve. the point of having sweet characters is not to jerk off to them, but to survive in a game where the shard population is mostly maxed because you can do it so quickly. alternatively, you don't have to macro. a lot of us doing it have already done it the old fashioned way. it doesn't hold any more mystery for us. but for a new player, growing into knowledge of the game as your character naturally skills up is one of the joys of the game. it's far from being the only thing to love though.

I played UO for years.

I've done ERRTHIN.