Block D

[Spinewire]

I'll be able to play tomorrow, what does everyone think of it so far?

[mantoe]

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[Atnas]

I am block D too! Lets play together.

[Spinewire]

i'm downloading that bitch now

[Atnas]

Do the torrent one, it has high speed.

[Kran De Loy]

Yeah, he Torrent is actually a lot faster than the direct download.

Also I'll get the game again after I beat Cryostasis. Of all the times I've tried to log in I have only got to the Character creation screen twice and no farther

[Atnas]

Good sport Kran.

[Mikee]

Wait a second. I think I'm in C or D, and I never got any e-mails about how I could be playing soon!

[Omley Boozebeard]

The mechanics are good and I think the servers are relativly stable now but theres nothing to do so I haven't been "testing" much.

[Spinewire]

Do the torrent one, it has high speed.
where is the non torrent link?

I'm getting 2kb/s on this torrent :(

[Kran De Loy]

Oh, I remember, that Direct Download was if you were using their Patch server, so basically you would have to have used the Torrent at least once. I just remember the direct download from teh patch server was horribly slow when compared to the torrent.

I usually get something like 20-150kbs torrent, and I'm stuck behind a router that I can not open up the proper ports for.

[Atnas]

I am getting a slow as fuck speed to the patcher which is absolutely silly.

[Kailas]

I was block B and I still haven't played

[Spinewire]

Well at its current speed it will be done in a week :/

[Al Swearengen]

I blame all of you noobs for the server being down. Stop whoring all their bandwidth.

[Supreme]

I blame all of you noobs for the server being down. Stop whoring all their bandwidth.

http://tbn0.google.com/images?q=tbn:DXXgCs7HGag7EM:http://lifeboat.com/images/frankenstein.jpg

HES ALIVE

[Thatcher]

I downloaded it 2 days ago, and was getting like 2 mbps, get better internet fag.

[Omley Boozebeard]

http://tbn0.google.com/images?q=tbn:DXXgCs7HGag7EM:http://lifeboat.com/images/frankenstein.jpg

HES ALIVE


I blame all of you noobs for the server being down. Stop whoring all their bandwidth.

Yeah seriously, who the fuck are you?

[Jolle Poker]

I think they are putting much priority on the servers right now, so we probably won't see more (good) content before all blocks are in and everything works as it should.

Hopefully we'll get working magic next week. Hopefully they install the new LOD soon. Hopefully the game will be worth playing more than 2-3 hours after each patch after the next patch.

I'm certain this game will be awesome though, given time. And well, it does in fact have time.

Also: For some unknown reason, the server is always down on weekends.

[Krow]

oh yea i forgot i paid for this, I guess I'll download it

[Spinewire]

I downloaded it 2 days ago, and was getting like 2 mbps, get better internet fag.
I just fired up greedy torrent and leeched that shit, fuck waiting.

Also i hear you are fat irl, so you don't get to call anyone names now, you big fat faggy cunt.

[Rougie]

I'll be able to play tomorrow, what does everyone think of it so far?

It's rubbish. I haven't played it for over two weeks now.

[Al Swearengen]

Yeah seriously, who the fuck are you?
http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g138/jesyjames/Al_Swearengen.jpg

[Spinewire]

It's rubbish. I haven't played it for over two weeks now.
why?

Have they just not added enough shit to do yet?

[Kran De Loy]

why?

Have they just not added enough shit to do yet?
Mostly. Than again I'm more than half expecting Rougie to fully judge the game base on Beta alone.
Not that it can't be done, I just want to keep my hopes up since I fucking bought the game already.

[Rougie]

why? Have they just not added enough shit to do yet?

- Yes, but it's also that this is pretty much what it's going to be like, in retail, since the game lacks any higher purpose - Sure, pvp can be fun, but for what purpose? - To get gear? - But for what purpose? - To continue pvp'ing? - But for what purpose? - To get more gear? - But for what purpose? - To continue pvp'ing... etc.

I need to know that what I'm doing, is for a higher purpose, rather than just a circular, never-ending, meaningless pvp, like MO is right now and will be, in retail.

Honestly, I am so fucking bored with MO right now, that I'd rather play Wurm Online. That's how fucking boring MO is, when you get past the initial 'awe' phase, when you first start playing.

I want my fucking money back.

[Goobles]

- Yes, but it's also that this is pretty much what it's going to be like, in retail, since the game lacks any higher purpose - Sure, pvp can be fun, but for what purpose? - To get gear? - But for what purpose? - To continue pvp'ing? - But for what purpose? - To get more gear? - But for what purpose? - To continue pvp'ing... etc.

I need to know that what I'm doing, is for a higher purpose, rather than just a circular, never-ending, meaningless pvp, like MO is right now and will be, in retail.

Honestly, I am so fucking bored with MO right now, that I'd rather play Wurm Online. That's how fucking boring MO is, when you get past the initial 'awe' phase, when you first start playing.

I want my fucking money back.
what did any video game do differently? surely you don't mean DAOC

i think you just choose to be sour about MO because you're so fucking addicted to wurm it's like a closet relationship

[Atnas]

Downloading at high speeds, will be done in a jiffy!

Edit: Well bollocks I can't login yet.

Edit edit: I always have to use the exe launcher thingy to start the game- it doesn't appear to be installed on my system, or whatever, can't find it in any quickstart or desktop thing!

[Thatcher]

yeah, the .exe is the only way to start it

[Chamoke]

The game is only in beta, it will get better!

[Atnas]

yeah, the .exe is the only way to start it

Give me your accounts so I can log in and try it! Yeah!

[Riddle]

Give me a shout if you guys are playing. Don't expect anything near a finished game, even the way the world looks is going to change.

Don't listen to rougie, the game is nothing like it will be in release. There are placeholders everywhere, the crafting minigame isn't in yet, the world isn't populated wth mobs or NPCs (apart from the odd pig/wolf), no housing, no magic etc etc

Just keep in mind that it's very early beta.

[Kale]

There was really nothing there to keep me entertained for more than 20 minutes or so. Just gonna keep logging in for each new patch and see how fast they start activating/implementing the basic gameplay features.

[Atnas]

Lets hope so anyway, Riddle!

[Rougie]

what did any video game do differently? surely you don't mean DAOC

- I think I've just woken up to the severely limited gameplay that is offered in MMOs today. I need a bit more in my game, than just kill, loot, kill, loot, kill, loot, etc. I need to know that I'm doing it all for some higher purpose(s); self-actualisation, you know?

[Chibi]

- I think I've just woken up to the severely limited gameplay that is offered in MMOs today. I need a bit more in my game, than just kill, loot, kill, loot, kill, loot, etc. I need to know that I'm doing it all for some higher purpose(s); self-actualisation, you know?


no they do dont, HoN, creep kill x (exp gain + gold) - n death = outcome

[Thatcher]

The game is only in beta, it will get better!

lololol, that sounds familiar

[Thatcher]

I need to know that I'm doing it all for some higher purpose(s); self-actualisation, you know?

What about for fun?

[Atnas]

- I think I've just woken up to the severely limited gameplay that is offered in MMOs today. I need a bit more in my game, than just kill, loot, kill, loot, kill, loot, etc. I need to know that I'm doing it all for some higher purpose(s); self-actualisation, you know?

Couldn't the same reasoning be used on Wurm? I dig to get materials to craft so I can dig, or whatever?

It really is what you make it out to be, I guess. Maybe Rougie needs territorial control for PvP to be fun since it gives it a higher purpose, but in reality it can also be added to the circle.

[Riddle]

It's not about getting from A to B it's about how you got to B from A in the first place!

Journey, not destination homie.

[LordTenacious]

I'm just shocked that people who are playing Wurm are busting other people's balls about repetitive games.

Here's a tip, all games are repetitive.


Journey, not destination homie.

Riddle gets it.

[Omley Boozebeard]

Honestly, I am so fucking bored with MO right now, that I'd rather play Wurm Online. That's how fucking boring MO is, when you get past the initial 'awe' phase, when you first start playing.

I want my fucking money back.

I love how you say that as if you rather wanting to play wurm is the ultimate insult, when we all know you love Wurm up the butt hole.

[Atnas]

Well they've got quite a way to go I can tell that already.

I crash a bit too much, I've downloaded the physx thing so I should be OK but it does it anyway. Pity!

[Tetsu]

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[Atnas]

A Lucky Star guitarr! Intriguing!

[Kran De Loy]

.. I hit play. Than I noticed it was a old guy and I turned it off.

[Shneddi]

.. I hit play. Than I noticed it was a old guy and I turned it off.

i saw the dress and was like "id rattle that anyday"

after watching it now, i feel bad. worried too,

[Thatcher]

Well they've got quite a way to go I can tell that already.

I crash a bit too much, I've downloaded the physx thing so I should be OK but it does it anyway. Pity!

I think that's you. The only time I ever crashed was when the servers went down.

[Thatcher]

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I saw the mouth and was like, lol dude, not watching.

[Jolle Poker]

A Lucky Star guitarr! Intriguing!

FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF YES

And Hatsune Miku is singing! I declare this the best video of today!

[Rougie]

Couldn't the same reasoning be used on Wurm? I dig to get materials to craft so I can dig, or whatever?

- It would only be circular, if you did something mindless, like: Mining iron ore to create pickaxes to mine more iron ore to create more pickaxes to mine more iron ore, etc.


It really is what you make it out to be, I guess. Maybe Rougie needs territorial control for PvP to be fun since it gives it a higher purpose, but in reality it can also be added to the circle.

- Territorial control would help, but as we learnt with niggerniggerniggerniggerniggerniggerniggernigger, it didn't automatically make PvP fun. For a game to be 'fun', it has to offer interesting and varied gameplay - Something which MO currently lacks, and will still lack (just like niggerniggerniggerniggerniggerniggerniggernigger), even with territorial control.

Tbh, I'd like to see Wurm and MO, combine into one game. I think that would be awesome.

[Tetsu]

-

- Territorial control would help, but as we learnt with niggerniggerniggerniggerniggerniggerniggernigger, it didn't automatically make PvP fun. For a game to be 'fun', it has to offer interesting and varied gameplay - Something which MO currently lacks, and will still lack (just like niggerniggerniggerniggerniggerniggerniggernigger), even with territorial control.

.

it didnt work because there was nothing there to control

[Kran De Loy]

it didnt work because there was nothing there to control
Yarp.

If there was actual things to have power over when controlling the cities/hamlets than it would have been worth the hassle.

[slugys]

all mmo are going the wrong way about it all nowdays imo.

UO added pvp to the system they had. they made a living breathing world. a world with shit to do. not just grind. fucking hell i logged into hybrid, was just mining ore for an hour making different shit out of it, it was damn fun. it did'nt feel grindy, restrictive or boring (comparing it to DF). its like 12? years old...

when i first started i was so shit, i was a kid, no idea what to do. had no gold. i went and picked cotton, turned it into yarn, made cloth. used that for different stuff. was fun fun fun.

its kinda hard to pinpoint what made uo great i guess. its got something to do with that fact that everything had a purpose (well not everything but a fuck tonne more than wow or niggerniggerniggerniggerniggerniggerniggernigger) also, not everything was about fighting. saving for a house with mates, making it look awesome etc.. fun. even going about killing dear and shit for hide and it was fun. in niggerniggerniggerniggerniggerniggerniggernigger you needed 2 for that (when we started anyway, im sure people 2 hit polar bears now)

darkfail, while i love fighting it also pisses me off they needed to add something so synthetic. as a racial alliance, when in fact there was no need imo. it was fine in uo when you had to worry about guilds you were at war with and reds. or if you were red... everyone but other reds... (that changed however)

the towns in darfall was shit also, uninspired shit. the magic was the most boring magic ive played apart from elder scroll games and even oblivion which i thought might have been good but was fail.

anyway, what was this topic about, i forgot cos im remember how awesome UO was and how stupid and shit niggerniggerniggerniggerniggerniggerniggernigger is and that new mortal online is going to be bollocks as well. fuck it.


tl;dr = mortal online can fuck off.

[Spinewire]

all mmo are going the wrong way about it all nowdays imo.

UO added pvp to the system they had. they made a living breathing world. a world with shit to do. not just grind. fucking hell i logged into hybrid, was just mining ore for an hour making different shit out of it, it was damn fun. it did'nt feel grindy, restrictive or boring (comparing it to DF). its like 12? years old...
but but mo will have a crafting mini game!!!11111onoenoen


Can we log on and play this shit now?

[comestible]

He really only plays the same riff the whole time.

[Spinewire]

He really only plays the same riff the whole time.
wrong thread?

[Kailas]

I think there's been a big push to make games more like arcade games, and that's detracting a lot from MMOs. In UO, the reason you didn't get killed absolutely everywhere you went was because there were guards, and because players policed themselves. Because it functioned like you would expect a real world to function, leaving town didn't mean getting clusterfucked (always).

Then came artificial, CPU, dev-made factions that you had to be a member of. All of a sudden you can't PvP your own kind (or you're penalized for it). Then game green zones and red zones and possibly the most retarded idea, yellow zones. It's like a stop-light of danger! Fuck that. By adding more they make the game less fun. Freedom >>> mechanics that limit what you can do, even if the intent is to make PvP more fair, or even make more of it. PvP is much more fun when you feel like you're in a wild world and you're relying on your wits. Duels, for example, don't need to be a game mechanic. We'll make it ourselves.

And that goes for more than PvP. The best crafting, imo, is when there are some basic items (swords, shields, armor pieces) and you don't know what the item is going to be until you craft it with the materials you farmed. Obviously if you make a sword with iron it becomes an iron sword, but maybe if you mix in the magic gems you found and some silver it becomes, like WOLFBANE SWORD or something.

The same concept goes for classes (which niggerniggerniggerniggerniggerniggerniggernigger replaced with massive grinds), instances and other BS that only makes sense in a video game and which teaches you exactly what to expect when you go into combat. "Oh, look, a mage, I better put my mana-protect item on". That's stupid. You should put it on when he casts some shit you've never seen before and it cripples you or something.

Shooters have kind of been going the opposite way, replacing healthbars with red borders, making games more open, I dunno why MMOs are getting so... democrat.

[comestible]

wrong thread?
Nope.

I think there's been a big push to make games more like arcade games, and that's detracting a lot from MMOs. In UO, the reason you didn't get killed absolutely everywhere you went was because there were guards, and because players policed themselves. Because it functioned like you would expect a real world to function, leaving town didn't mean getting clusterfucked (always).

Then came artificial, CPU, dev-made factions that you had to be a member of. All of a sudden you can't PvP your own kind (or you're penalized for it). Then game green zones and red zones and possibly the most retarded idea, yellow zones. It's like a stop-light of danger! Fuck that. By adding more they make the game less fun. Freedom >>> mechanics that limit what you can do, even if the intent is to make PvP more fair, or even make more of it. PvP is much more fun when you feel like you're in a wild world and you're relying on your wits. Duels, for example, don't need to be a game mechanic. We'll make it ourselves.

And that goes for more than PvP. The best crafting, imo, is when there are some basic items (swords, shields, armor pieces) and you don't know what the item is going to be until you craft it with the materials you farmed. Obviously if you make a sword with iron it becomes an iron sword, but maybe if you mix in the magic gems you found and some silver it becomes, like WOLFBANE SWORD or something.

The same concept goes for classes (which niggerniggerniggerniggerniggerniggerniggernigger replaced with massive grinds), instances and other BS that only makes sense in a video game and which teaches you exactly what to expect when you go into combat. "Oh, look, a mage, I better put my mana-protect item on". That's stupid. You should put it on when he casts some shit you've never seen before and it cripples you or something.

Shooters have kind of been going the opposite way, replacing healthbars with red borders, making games more open, I dunno why MMOs are getting so... democrat.

Yes.

[Kran De Loy]

but but mo will have a crafting mini game!!!11111onoenoen


Can we log on and play this shit now?
Nope, they say the Minigame will not even be in for the release, but at least they had said that before they sold the preorders.

Also, I know what you mean about the freedom stuff. Some of my best dreams are a long the same lines of these two manga's I like to read. Both of them either use the idea as a background or are entirely about a full-sense virtual reality (think the matrix for the most common reference to the idea), but the cool thing about them isn't that, but rather the extreme freedom the artist-writer trying to show that the game is capable or based around.

The better of the two, imo, has a class based system, with levels 1-99. Reaching level 99 is fucking difficult and takes horrendous amounts of time. Now stay with me here! There are secondary skills in the game that can be considered professions, cooking, first-aid, horse breeding, etc (I'm not 100% on the actually skills, but you get the idea, now stay with me!) then there are primary skills that only stem from inate abilities that are what actually make up the various classes. Spell casting, Melee Fighter, Healing etc..

Now it the cool part. The secondary skills had no class requirements, you can have as many as you want. Primary skills were also no limited exclusive ability in spells/melee/healing/whatever only. You could mix and match as you felt like, the more levels you had in skills the harder it was to get higher level or skills. It was also possible to get level 99 as a Caster, than shoot to get level 99 as a healer and become something like a Arcane Healer or a Holy DPS, mixing the skills in completely strange ways. Not all mixes were effective, but all were possible, just some had effects not well suited together.

A feature that the story writer decided to make sure was made distinct was that two major characters in the series were both 99 Mages and were also trying for 99 Melee. Both had different secondary skills, but while one focased more on spell caster while using sword and board as a back up that only refined and complemented his casting abilities the other would focas more on the balance between the two classes that would make them complement eachother. The first's class was titled "Grand Magician" and the second was "Spell Sword."

There is also a character that managed to unlock a class called "Unholy Priest" or something, by leveling 99 in Necromancer and Cleric, one being a class based on the control of undead creatures and the other over healing, but combining the two he was able to have control over spirits as well! He was even able to manipulate and corpses and spirits of dead players!

TL;DR: I like manga, there is one called Yureka (http://www.mangafox.com/manga/yureka/v01/c001/2.html) that is about an awesome game.

[Atnas]

I can't stand reading that shit Kran because true to asian MMOs it isn't awesome, it is just a horrible grind. And all they do is grind.

Also it is poorly drawn!

[Kale]

I think that's you. The only time I ever crashed was when the servers went down.

Same for me

[Goobles]

TL;DR: I like manga, there is one called Yureka (http://www.mangafox.com/manga/yureka/v01/c001/2.html) that is about an awesome game.

is manga one of your japanese pornographus?

[Capricious]

Stop calling it a beta.

[Kran De Loy]

is manga one of your japanese pornographus?
No.

Well, sometimes.


I can't stand reading that shit Kran because true to asian MMOs it isn't awesome, it is just a horrible grind. And all they do is grind.

Also it is poorly drawn!
Meh, I can usually overlook poor art for the story. I just saw more into that you did I guess.


Stop calling it a beta.

This is true. It is more Alpha than niggerniggerniggerniggerniggerniggerniggernigger ever was.

[Jolle Poker]

This is true. It is more Alpha than niggerniggerniggerniggerniggerniggerniggernigger ever was.

But niggerniggerniggerniggerniggerniggerniggernigger never left that stage, which it seems like MO will (in time). niggerniggerniggerniggerniggerniggerniggernigger will most probably still be a pile of shit in 2 years time (if it survives that long) while MO (given that they can fix all the common problem they have now in a reasonable fast time) will hopefully be a pretty cool game with lots of cool features.

[LordTenacious]

Call me if this game ever gets good. I'll be punching and shooting fags right in their faces in the meantime.