New PC

[SeksForAle]

Maybe I'm just an applicant, but I figure I will start here for making conversation..

So here goes, I am currently trying to make a new PC purchase on newegg using the bill me later option.. and OMGOSH I'm not on the credit beureau's listing.. So I'm like.. wtf right.. so I call up my mom and get her info and basically she's wtf pwnt too cause she's not there either.. anyone else have this problem or know of a way this can be rectified?

And for anyone who is interested .. here's what I'm getting-

CPU - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115037
Motherboard - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131327
RAM - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231098
Video - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814129113
Case - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811103011 (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811144187)
PSU - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817182030
Thermal material - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835100007
CPU fan - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835186134

If anyone can make a suguestion on anything that I am missing or anything better or a lot less expensive but comparable, feel free .. I know I'm missing obvious stuff, but I already have a 10,000RPM SATA HDD and 120gig IDE HDD and DVD+RW drive.

[TangerineSky]

Do you overclock? If not, do you intend to?

I would suggest a better case.
You may want to do a little research mobo's before picking that one.

You also, don't need to buy thermal grease with that cooling fan. It comes pre-applied it's not cheap goo that you will need to replace.

I would suggest this for your PSU. It's cheaper and better.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817153052

Everything else looks good.
Oh, and if you you play a bigger monitor at high res, I would get this baby.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814161247
1GB of GDDR5 that is smoking everything right now.

[SeksForAle]

I wasn't planning on overclocking till warranties are out, But I switched my case choice any ways since previous case had built in PSU http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811103011 And.. are you certain I should go with a 500 watt PSU over the 550? The Roswell had good reviews. And I play on a 19 inch monitor at 1600x1200 usually, I REALLY need a new monitor though, I think my girlfriend will get me one though.

[TangerineSky]

Meh, the PSU was more of less preference. You will be fine with ether one and I suppose if you go crossfire you may need that extra 50w.

As for cases, here's one you may want to consider. It's pretty cool, has great reviews, and free shipping.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811146025

[SeksForAle]

All preference on the case, I went full ATX cause I like.. more space to work in, and it usually is less cluttered from wires like that :p

[Tetsu]

looks fine, but you may want to spend more on the cpu if your into longevity

[TangerineSky]

looks fine, but you may want to spend more on the cpu if your into longevity
Why? What CPU should he buy?

[Surly]

Anyone who hasn't criticized your choice of Power Supply yet shouldn't be listened to for advice. If you demand a cheap power supply, get this one:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817182150

And the review of why it's one of the only good Rosewill PSUs in existence:
http://www.hardwaresecrets.com/article/558/10

[Tetsu]

idk i just try to make a rule of spending more on my cpu than mobo

[TangerineSky]

idk i just try to make a rule of spending more on my cpu than mobo
That's a shitty rule when you don't know what components you're talking about.

[Tetsu]

So if i were to spend 300$ on a cpu and buy a mobo that works well with it (note that you have to try to spend more than 200$ on a mobo afaik), it would not be as efficient spending 150$ on a cpu and its consumate mobo?

[TangerineSky]

So if i were to spend 300$ on a cpu and buy a mobo that works well with it (note that you have to try to spend more than 200$ on a mobo afaik), it would not be as efficient spending 150$ on a cpu and its consumate mobo? You should make your question more clear.

Buying a $300 cpu and $200 dollar mobo should better then buying $150 cpu and $200 mobo.

It all really depends on the equipment you are using. Price doesn't always = performance.

The reason his mobo is as expensive as it is, is because it is a P5Q mid-range DDR3 supported board. (200$+ mobo is generally not worth it unless you are an performance"enthusiast" not a gamer)

I mean your statement just appears ignorant (not in the condescending way). You can't say oh well CPU's should always cost more then mobo's or visa-versa. Sometimes it's more advantageous to buy a better mobo then your CPU.

[SeksForAle]

I upgraded my CPU to the 8500 which was only 20 dollars more and is 3.16GHz, I upgraded my ram to 1066 because my MOBO supports it, I have THAT motherboard because I don't want a cheap POS Gigabyte and this one has plenty of room for me to upgrade with, and it has a FSB that will make use of my CPU and RAM, I upgraded to the 600w Roswell as well.

What I plan to do with this computer? A LOT of 3D rendering (movies) as well as gaming.

[Tetsu]

so he should buy a cheaper mobo?

[SeksForAle]

>< I got this motherboard because it's good, has good features, is stable, it seemingly is less likely to come DOA than other boards I looked at that were cheaper, it's ASUS.. and I have always known ASUS to make good stuff. I want stability and reliability, and if it means spending a little bit more, than so be it.

[Tetsu]

So you should buy a better cpu?

[SeksForAle]

I have a Intel Core 2 Duo E8500 picked out .. it runs at 3.16GHz I don't think I'll need much better for a while... It has the best performance for the best price.. per dollar.. it performs better, no need to push further.

[Tetsu]

So you should buy better ram?

[TangerineSky]

Tetsu = Troll.

[Tetsu]

Nah UH!

[SeksForAle]

I gotted trolled :(

[Motavia]

Anyone who hasn't criticized your choice of Power Supply yet shouldn't be listened to for advice. If you demand a cheap power supply, get this one:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817182150

And the review of why it's one of the only good Rosewill PSUs in existence:
http://www.hardwaresecrets.com/article/558/10

That same article suggests http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817341010&Tpk=OCZ%20StealthXStream%20600%20W over the one you linked. And that PSU (after rebate) is 50 bucks on newegg.

[Estrang]

I wasn't planning on overclocking till warranties are out, But I switched my case choice any ways since previous case had built in PSU http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811103011 And.. are you certain I should go with a 500 watt PSU over the 550? The Roswell had good reviews. And I play on a 19 inch monitor at 1600x1200 usually, I REALLY need a new monitor though, I think my girlfriend will get me one though.

Even if ur not overclocking that case sucks, get one that has big ass vents in the side or a clear side so u can see ur leet motherboard + nerd stuff. Also, by a big ass case becuase bigger is better and it will last you for future comps and upgrades, also, more volume for air = cooler air temps inside the case. :fuck you: :fuck you: :fuck you: :fuck you: :fuck you: :fuck you: :fuck you: :fuck you: :fuck you: :fuck you:

[Estrang]

I gotted trolled :(

yeah u did he was obvious about it yet it hooked u like a hungry trout in a streambed with old man river on the sidelines equipped with hook and reel.

[Hatebringer]

I think u may be bang on the money with your 'new case' idea. try a stacker 832 like i have, its hyooooge. i think getting a cheaper processor like the q6600 (energy saving ed. ;) and a new fan is the best option, just because overclocking is fun :D

[SeksForAle]

I think u may be bang on the money with your 'new case' idea. try a stacker 832 like i have, its hyooooge. i think getting a cheaper processor like the q6600 (energy saving ed. ;) and a new fan is the best option, just because overclocking is fun :D

Uhhh, if you haven't noticed maybe.. the Q6600 and the E8500 are priced the same.. and I was thinking about getting some humongous case with something like 8 fans and it's called the Xclio 1000, and I'm looking at the Antec Nine hundred which seems to be pretty popular. no way am I spending over 200 bucks on a case, I'm using an Antec case I got in 2003 for $85 right now :p

[Motavia]

Was looking around and saw this Antec Twelve Hundred (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811129043&Tpk=antec%20twelve%20hundred) on newegg that people really seemed to like. I also saw that with shipping on this other site (http://www.provantage.com/antec-twelve-hundred~7ANTG051.htm) you can buy it and get it sent (to SC anyways) for $151.01 including shipping instead of the $200 newegg has it for (that's w/ free shipping too).

[Tabarnak]

I dont know if any of you have used newegg much before, but with the 90 day payment option can i pay it before the 90 days? or is it heres a date pay it or die bitch.

[Dalonin]

(ears perk up)

Did somebody mention case air flow?

I spent a while looking into the CFM vs flow layout issue, a long time ago. I used to assemble systems--started more than a decade ago, when you couldn't buy disposable desktops in big box store gumball machines, for $100--for friends and associates. I didn't do a lot of business, but I probably did about a score of cases a year. Pretty sure I only put together two last year, though, slowing down a lot: now that I have kids helping friends troubleshoot takes up too much time. I tried making wind tunnels, I tried making low-flow cases around heat pipes, I tried zip-tying the cables out of the way and leaving the stock fans, I probably did most of the right--and wrong--layouts at one point or another, before settling on a combination of smooth airflow across a heat pipe, with ram fins and other component cooling on some of the hotter boxes. In my experience, all layouts work. For most 'normal' users, anyways.

If you're planning on doing a lot of 3d-rendering (probably the most intensive thing I've ever put a PC through, beyond stress-test benchmarks) then you may want to seriously consider spending a few dollars and several hours plotting your air flow strategy. Buy rounded cables where you can. Tuck all cables out of the way, or at least tie them together, and generally try to make sure that the airflow is unobstructed from intake(s) to exhaust(s). Open the case regularly (say maybe once a month, depending on your air quality, pets, etc) to clean the inside. Probably sounds really ridiculous, but I've known several computers (none of my own) that have literally ignited due dust bunnies, pet hair, and who knows what else.

Once you're done assembling your machine, spend a few minutes making sure that the BIOS is set up correctly, fine tune it, and *make sure* you watch the PC health screen at least once. Verify that the voltages are running at the right levels on the right rails, temperatures are normal, you set the warning levels to what you feel is appropriate, etc. Afterwards, get your OS set up and put on one of your more recent graphically intense games, play it for a few minutes to make sure the thermal warnings don't go off because your board's frying, then get out of it and reboot to get back into your BIOS and check the thermal states. If everything looks wonderful great, but if not, you may want to improve your airflow.

If you want some information on airflow theories, google 'case air flow' or something along those lines. Here's a couple links I picked up skimming through some (very quick) search results.

http://www.pcguide.com/care/care/gen/coolAir-c.html
http://www.technibble.com/case-cooling-the-physics-of-good-airflow/
http://icrontic.com/articles/pc_airflow_heat_cooling_guide
http://www.planetamd64.com/lofiversion/index.php?t7149.html

Some useful information, perhaps, if you're looking to spend some time learning about it. If you feel you already know enough about it, then this post will be thoroughly useless to you, and you may summarily ignore it.

Cheers.

[Tetsu]

If we end up living on boats power supply may be an issue.

[Dalonin]

Not if they're, um, sailboats. With, um, big, uh, wind generators. Yeah.

[comestible]

Just craft one of these.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BTv7sKw_Jng

[Mushuukyou]

I just buy all my crap at Fry's, so I can easily take it back and replace it.
It's rare I can't find something at Fry's that I want.

[comestible]

You need better guidelines for what to want imf.

[Metal Wolf]

"The Case"

http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=25_238&products_id=7475

The Lan Li Tyr is pretty good too.

[Dalonin]

Hey, that wave power generator is pretty neat. I'm going to build one for my little inflatable kiddie pool next weekend.